Monday, April 16, 2012

The so famous dragon-legendary or just tier 3?

The dragon doesn't seem so impressive to me.Yes its big and it looks cool but i really don't think we can compare it to a major experimental from supreme commander.I hope it is either "mini-legendary" or tier 3 unit and the actual legendary units will be bigger.(check the giant rhino thing on the art picture)|||From the vlog, the dragon seems kinda stiff and vertical to me, very classical and undynamic.
It would look cooler if it was more crouched down, feral / fierce looking, almost like a stalking tiger or something fast and agile.|||AdmiralZeech|||LOL I would hope Dragons could switch to air mode with a toggle. A dragon that doesn't fly is only marginally better then a chicken.|||Nerdfish|||Who says land-locked dragons are bad? A land-locked dragon would be bulkier, stronger, in generally more dangerous than a flying dragon.
For that mater, why do dragons have to be typical european medieval bestiary type dragons? what ever happened to the snake-like 2-legged Wyrms, and flightless serpents of legend?
|||I've read somewhere that traditional dragons from Chinese folk tales breath out water, not fire. Perhaps this could make it into the game?|||spitting dragons XD
though if one of the factions could have dragons inspired by the swampdragons from discworld it would be awesome...
Quote:|||Flying fire-breathing suicide dragons? :D
I also completely agree with having many types of dragons. I may be saying this too often, but that's how important it is.|||Yep, ground/air toggle would be nice.|||death1234|||Dragon types:
4 legged and winged
Generic western European "dragon". Can fly, but with the extra set of limbs, may or may not be able to fly for long periods of times.
6 legged or more
Flightless version of above, with at least 4 legs in contact with the ground, and possibly the 3rd set of legs may or may not be used as legs. Could be the land-locked variant of the dragon above, with 6 legs used for movement. Some baselisk descriptions give it many legs, more than 4, resulting in a 6+ legged dragon variant.
4 legged no wings
Land dragon, Of which the Baselisk can be a subset of. No flying ability whatsoever. Being land-locked it would probably have substantially more muscles and heavier build, being the equivalent of tigers, lions, and bears of the dragons.
2 legged and winged
Generally called a wyvern, originating out of Norse mythology. Two hind legs and fore arms are converted into big wings, something like a pterosaur (pterodactyl), birds, or bats. Predominantly flying creature that can land, strong flapping muscles and probably would behave much like predatory birds: Eagles, hawks, etc. swooping down picking up individual targets and tropping them to their death. Cockatrice is a variant of this, simply with more bird like attributes.
2 legged and wingless
Can be called Lindworms in British heraldry, although that same name can refer to serpents and giant sea serpents depending on region. by far on of the least common phenotypes of "dragons" from my basic reading.
Modern version would be the bipedal dinosaur: T-rex, Velociraptor, Allosaurus, etc.
No legs no wings
Generally called Serpents, to distinguish them from snakes due to their size. Limbless and flightless "dragons" with strong snake-like attributes.
No legs and wings
Probably the oldest definition of a dragon, Linky, and is basically a fiery flying serpent. whether serpents includes limbs or not is up to personal preference.
From the above link, the fiery could be interpreted as the forerunner of the standard fire-breathing dragon we have today. Probably not the same as the Bombardier beetle, but can both be used.
These are the basic types of physiologies that i have encountered while researching upon reptilian heraldic and mythical creatures. What environment they could live in, though and hence what defensive and other abilities they could have developed is up to imagination.
Looking at poisonous animals, spitting cobras and bombardier beetles, we can easily contemplate a venomous dragon of smaller stature than 4 legged land-locked dragons as venom is rarely used in nature by large predators. What PH the venemo is, is again up to imagination, allowing for acidic venomous dragons.
Another possibility is that of land-locked dragons becoming aquatic, or at least amphibious.
Obviously i'm looking at a mythological creature from a scientific perspective, and magic or fantasy make any assumptions pointless. However, The key issue here is that if you want to stand out, going down the realism road slightly, making semi-believable creatures will by itself make you stand out because you're not just another warcraft-universe-clone. See The Witcher. Eastern European fantasy that stood out amongst other (western) fantasy games like an experimental in a land blob.|||Solar|||I like how re1wind called a Dinosaur a modern dragon...|||re1wind|||yes, but we dont know the third faction yet. that, and you cant rule out an expansion pack.|||ive always wanted to see a mexican style dragon like quetzalcoatl, just a Big long feathered snake slidering through the trees rather than the usual arms and legs approach.|||I would like to see dragons being upgradable to maybe carry a mage , or archers, or to act as a transport to deliver heavy ballista, cannon ect to the front lines. :wink:|||OnnaWave|||My vote goes to a collection of different dragon colors/types like in D&D for example.
Want a fire breathing dragon? Take a red one! Want an acid spitting one? Go go black dragon.|||Legion Darrath|||DeadMG|||Solar|||Vimes is random|||Bastilean

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